I really don’t understand. Well, I think that I might, but I might be wrong, too.
And, I know, I should just stop reading these angry rantings. It’s really not my business. I’m not part of the childfree community at all. But, I like finding out about new people, people who are different from me. It’s interesting, keeps my mind open and, I think, makes me better able to understand other people. Also, I just hate seeing people so sad & angry -and- I’m trying to understand (and, I like reading what Robin writes, which leads me to clicking on these other things, too). :-p
Some of my replies to some of the stuff that I’ve read when clicking from one thing to another, after reading Robin’s entry:
People angry at parents because, when parents leave workplace to attend kids’ stuff, they have to cover:
Why should it matter to you how I use my vacation time or sick time? Isn’t that something that’s between my employer & me? You have vacation & sick time available to you, too. I don’t care how you use it. I will probably hate doing extra work in your absence, too - but, that’s how work works. If you don’t have vacation or sick time & I do & we work at the same place, you are really being treated unfairly by our employer. That really doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that I decided to be a parent, though.
People angry at parents who bring kids to restaurants:
Isn’t your anger misdirected or, at best, generalized? Shouldn’t you be angry at parents who bring kids to restaurants and then don’t supervise them or teach them to behave properly? I know you don’t want to hear this, but… My kids do behave nicely in restaurants, because we teach them how. If they are not behaving properly & we can’t get them to behave, we would leave the restaurant (although, I can only think of one time when this happened and that wasn’t really a behavior issue so much as it was a child becoming ill). The only way that I can think of to teach kids how to behave properly in a restaurant is to bring them to one and then supervise them while there.
So, if you’re at a restaurant & the behavior of the other patrons is making you uncomfortable, you should let the manager know. And, you should decide whether to stay or not. It’s a straight business decision on the manager’s part, from there.
Not wanting to hear others talk about their kids or parenting:
Hey, it’s just conversation. If you find that topic boring, then change the subject or end the conversation. I find conversations about football boring. So, if someone talks to me about it, I just laugh & say, as politely as I can, that I don’t really follow football. Then, if I’m in the mood, I listen & continue the conversation, to see if I can learn anything more about it.
Another example - I have chosen not to eat meat (haven’t eaten it in about 20 years). If people start talking about recipes that include meat, I will probably politely say “Sounds yummy”. Who knows, maybe the recipe will be easily adapted to my meat-free lifestyle. Maybe not. If they offer me meat, I’ll say “No thanks”. I might even add, with a smile, “I don’t touch the stuff”. If they ask me more about it, I’ll assume that they are interested in my life & answer their questions. Which brings me to the next thing…
People asking you about your kids or when you’re going to have them:
Hey, it’s just conversation (again
). I don’t find it any ruder than someone childfree asking me about my pets, my job, my car, my hobbies. Or, asking me about my vegetarianism or agnosticism. Although, I try to be careful when talking to meat-eaters & religion-believers, to let them know that I respect their decisions, they just don’t work for me.
Children make noise while you’re trying to relax in your apartment, read a book at the beach, listen to your SO tell you how wonderful you are, etc.:
If it’s a public or shared place where quiet behavior is expected or polite, then you’re dealing with *parents* who haven’t taught their children proper behavior. Not all parents are lacking here. I would venture to say that *most* parents are not lacking here. We may not get it right all of the time, but I’m pretty sure that most of us are trying, anyway.
If it’s not a place or time where quiet behavior is expected, you might have to get used to the idea that the world doesn’t, actually, revolve around you.
A child touched your hand while you were waiting in line to pay your bill at IHOP:
WTF? It was an accident, not an attack. Do you not think that you might, possibly, be overreacting? Was this meant to be a joke?
And, I know that no one besides a couple of friends reads my blog, anyway
But, what I’d really like to know, just to restore my faith in people in general on this issue, is that there are people out there who have made the hard decision to be childfree (just as it should be a hard decision to *have children*) and have, then, politely moved on with their lives, content in their decision but aware that others may not know their decision or understand it. And, that they know that the other people are not stupid or wrong or out to get them, it just means that they don’t know you well enough, yet.
Are there any childfree people out there who are embarrassed by the angry rantings? I know that I am sometimes embarrassed by the entitled, selfish bad parenting that I see in some families. And, often I am embarrassed by vegetarians who proselytize & make others uncomfortable -or- atheists/agnostics who try to argue with believers about their beliefs or call believers stupid. Not that I didn’t do some of this, myself, when I first chose vegetarianism, or when I was first questioning my own religious beliefs. It’s just that, over time I’ve come to understand that we’re all on different paths in life, all making decisions as best we can, given our own life experiences & personal strengths. And, I’ve come to be more confident in who I am & the choices that I have made.
I really think that it’s great that not everyone decides to have children. It’s a hard job & it’s not for everyone. I even agree that it would be great if fewer people had children, or if more people put more thought into the decision to have children, before doing it. I totally applaud the people who have weighed the decision & made a mature, responsible choice to remain childfree.
I don’t applaud rude, thoughtless, careless, mean behavior in anyone, though.
—- Editing to add thoughts that I had on my ride home from work —-
Just trying to figure out where the anger is coming from & thinking about my experiences when I first went vegetarian. I was young then, not that age really has anything to do with emotional maturity (and not that I mean to call anyone immature, exactly) & hadn’t yet figured out my small place in this big world (and how great it was, along with everyone else’s). I was still trying out different people & lifestyles, trying to figure out who “I” was & learning to love myself as I was, not as anything I was pretending to be.
Anyway, I think, then, that I kind of liked the shock value & attention that I got, stepping outside of the mainstream. Or, maybe it was scary there, standing outside of the mainstream & I would overreact & pose in order to get comfortable there.
Kind of like kids who color their hair blue & purple & green, then snarl, “What are you looking at?” when you notice them.
Does that make sense?